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Old 01-23-2008, 05:29 PM
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I just switched dog food my 4 1/2 month old german shepherd puppy was on iams but today i bought canidae how much should i feed her a day
she is 40 lbs


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Old 01-23-2008, 05:33 PM
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What commercial manufacturers call "dog food" is NOT actual FOOD, it is a profitable way of using up the otherwise-unmarketable scraps left over from making real food for people.
With REAL food you just feed whatever's available today, none of that tedious nonsense of mixing 25% of the new poison with 75% of the old poison.

Realise that dogs are canids, and canids - coyotes, dogs, foxes, jackals, wolves - are carnivores.
Their digestive system evolved to perfectly suit animal proteins, both carrion and fresh - birds, eggs, fish, insects, mammals, reptiles.
They lack the enzymes needed to firstly dissolve the cellulose walls of every plant cell, and to secondly convert the plant proteins into forms an omnivore can assimilate. Even if they did have those enzymes, their digestive tract is too short for those enzymes to have time to work. When a special plant diet is required, those enzymes have to be poured over the plant material and given time to "pre-digest" the plants before the dog eats them.

During the centuries of domestication, dogs have evolved slightly to thrive on cooked table scraps. Crushing & cooking (as with the flour we use) makes plant materials digestible, but at the cost of denaturing several of the valuable ingredients, especially the vitamins. In my opinion the heat applied during an extrusion process does not cook the plant protein enough. If you MUST feed kibbles, make sure that they are BAKED.

But the logical, natural diet for dogs is raw meat on small bones, supplemented with "leftovers" aka cooked table scraps. For a GSD, mice, rats, chickens can be eaten bones and all. Bones from sheep - tails, briskets, maybe ribs - make great gnaw-bones. Do NOT feed baked or roasted bones, but bones that have been given long slow pressure cooking are good - my dogs love it when I come home with a pack of KFC.

Those who consider kibble to be real food need to sit and think about what else has changed in the world of dogs since about 1965, apart from better veterinary techniques. That IS the period during which kibbles have gone from unheard-of to almost-universal. It is also the period in which allergies have escalated and GDV-bloat has increased by about 18,000%!!! See http://www.vet.purdue.edu/epi/bloat.htm - I think it is the third article that gives the increase & the period.
Table scraps:
"Predisposing factors that decreased the risk of GDV significantly were a "happy" temperament and inclusion of table foods in a usual diet consisting primarily of dry dog food." See: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=AbstractPlus&li st_uids=9138229
ANYthing that reduces the intake of kibbles is an improvement!

When it comes to amounts, basically it is whatever she eats without stopping - as soon as she stops eating you remove the bowl. And she should be on 3 feeds a day at that age, then 2 meals a day from 6-through-10 months old.
You can't feed on a "so much per age" basis (and manufacturers want you to overfeed anyway) - it depends on how efficient is the dog's metabolism, and how much energy it burns off exercising/playing .
Assuming that she has a correct GSD coat, you eye will tell you whether she in correct condition, neither overweight nor underweight. The "rule" is that you should see the outline of every rib when she is working (gaiting, panting) but no more than the very last rib when she is rested.
Les P, owner of GSD_Friendly: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/GSD_Friendly
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Old 01-23-2008, 05:37 PM
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The back of the bag has instructions, and you can alter them to fit your dog's needs if he is gaining or losing weight with those instructions.
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Old 01-23-2008, 05:47 PM
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It will say on the back of the label. If I were you I'd pay close attention to Bullmastiff_Boxer_lover's and abbyful's answers--very helpful!
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Old 01-23-2008, 05:47 PM
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Follow the label on the back of the bag.

You want to make a slow transfer from the iams to the canidae over the course of 2 weeks so your dog doesn't get diarrhea.
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dont just switch make sure you mix it up
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:02 PM
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it depends on her weight....i have a chihuahua n he is like a pretty big one....i feed him only 1 bowl aday...my bowl is pretty small...so...find out its weigh..dan on da label of the dog food..dere shld b how many bowls/ounces u shld feed her...GOOD LUCK...but make sure dat u dont over flow on da food...!!!!
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:04 PM
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Start off easy. You should slowly add a little more each day. For example, First day try one piece give it to your dog and wait to see if it digests correctly. If so add about enough to fit in your palm. Mix it in with it's normal diet. The next week add about 2 palm fulls and mix. Keep repeating untill the third week and just add 1 handful and mix.
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:17 PM
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Congratulations!!!
That is great dog food!

Day 1 – Feed 75% of your pet's daily ration with your current brand and feed the remaining 25% with the brand that you wish to switch to. In our example this would mean feeding the puppy one and a half cups of puppy food and half a cup of adult food.

Day 2 – Same as Day 1.

Day 3 – Feed 50% of the daily ration with your current brand and fill the remaining 50% with the new brand that you are switching to. In our example, the puppy would be fed one cup of puppy food and one cup of adult food on this day.

Day 4 – Same as Day 3.

Day 5 – Only feed 25% of the daily ration with your current brand and fill the remaining 75% with the new food. On this day the puppy would get half a cup of puppy food and one and a half cups of adult food.

Day 6 – Same as Day 5.

Day 7 – Feed 100% of the daily ration with the new food. On this day the puppy would be fed two cups of adult food and the transition would be complete.



http://www.pets.ca/pettips/pet-tip-91.htm
Read this website

http://www.ehow.com/how_2067595_switch-different-dog-food.html?ref=fuel
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:18 PM
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The back of the Canidae bag says a 40 pound puppy should have between 2-4 cups of food a day (for puppies between 25-50 pounds).

Remember to switch slowly so your dog doesn't get diarrhea. I do this over about a 2 week timespan:
25% food A, 75% food B
50% food A, 50% food B
75% food A, 25% food B
100% food A
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